I got a message last week: Patient\’s mother requests a note so she can bring his lunch to daycare. They say it is federal law that he eat a healthy diet.
OK. So I have to write a note saying, \”Please allow Jonnie to bring his lunch to school?\” It takes MD after your name to have the authority to say that lunches should be brought? Apparently so.
It seems the daycare was up in arms because the child\’s mother packs Cokes and sweets, which makes the other kids want the same. They begged me to rescind the note. I told them that, while this was bad parenting, it was not my place to be in the middle of this discussion. They have the right to kick the child out of daycare if they choose.
It makes me wonder, how do I get in the middle of this kind of thing? This is not the first time that I have had to write a note like this; I get requests regularly for notes for all sorts of things.
- My child needs to get up and go to the bathroom during class. Could you give me a note saying that if he needs to go, it is OK? I wrote it, but wonder how my medical education was used in making this judgment. Why wouldn\’t the teacher just let the kid get up to go?
- My daughter gets thirsty a lot during class. Can she get a note saying its OK to get a drink? I did not write that one. The child would somehow have license to get up multiple times per class. Dehydration does not take 45 minutes. Besides, would my asking for this obligate the teacher to follow it? Thirst is not a medical condition that I treat
- Can I get out of PE? I have kids who hate PE, who want any possible excuse to get out of it. Personally, I got out of PE for the first two years in high school due to a knee condition I had (this proved to me once and for all that there is a God). Not liking PE, however, is not a good enough excuse.
- Jury Duty – Everyone wants to get out of jury duty. Panic attacks, chronic back pain, migraines, everything seems to be an excuse to get out of it. I don\’t usually give exemptions because I think they should do it. I did (and missed three days of work). I guess jury duty is the adult equivalent of PE.
- Airline tickets – There are special occasions where patients require an excuse from a booked flight (surgery, serious illness, etc).
- Health Club Membership – This is generally more difficult to get out of than anything I have ever seen. Health clubs are very reluctant to let a contract go, even sometimes with a note from the doctor. The practice has made me have very negative feelings toward the industry.
- I was sick last week and missed a couple of days of work, can you give me a note? No. I don\’t write a note for someone I did not see. When I write a note for someone, I usually just state the fact that I saw them in my office, so please excuse the absence.
No Child Left Behind
The NCLB law has been an incredible boon to both pediatricians and the fake excuse industry. Why? Here\’s what happens:
- The schools are not only judged by test scores, but by attendance of students. Schools can get on the \”bad\” list if their students miss too many days. Each student is allowed only five unexcused absences from school. Notes from parents don\’t count.
- If a child gets sick enough to stay home, the parent is often forced to bring the child to the doctor, even though it is a sickness that they know needs no treatment. Why? Doctors are clearly more skilled at saying a child has diarrhea than a parent. We are experts at it, so we must make the clinical judgment that the child does, in fact, have diarrhea.
- Some parents resort to forging notes for multiple absences. In the past year I have had to discharge families from our practice because of multiple forged excuses. Do I blame them for wanting to save money? Not at all. But forging a doctor\’s excuse undermines the relationship.
My kids are healthy, so I haven\’t faced it yet, but I suspect that my note saying they were absent for diarrhea would not be accepted. I think this is because my judgement of diarrhea is blurred by my close relationship with my child.
Overall, excuses are both a power trip (I can get people out of nearly anything) and a pain in the rear. I wonder what would happen if physicians started wielding this power as a weapon. What would happen if, after Medicare cuts, we started writing excuses at such a rate that there would be a major economic down-turn causing staggering inflation and rising interest rates.
That\’d show them, wouldn\’t it? Then when they asked us to testify in court as to why we did this, we could get one of our colleagues to write us an excuse for that.
Then if they wanted the records showing that the person was in fact sick, we can say that our dog ate it.
It sounds foolproof to me.
My 18 year old, senior, has a temperature of 101.7. The school won’t let him come to school, But I’m not about to take him to the doctor either. He’s allowed 5 days (in our case, for the YEAR)
How in the world he didn’t get held back on absenses, I’m not sure. I dug my heels in this year and refused to play their game. (granted, I did say “I won’t play your game. I will talk to my reporter friend that you’ve held back an honor roll, AP student who will be starting college as a freshman” so they may have just not even gone there ….. *shrug* maybe they decided mamma was a bear they weren’t going to tangle with?)
My 18 year old, senior, has a temperature of 101.7. The school won’t let him come to school, But I’m not about to take him to the doctor either. He’s allowed 5 days (in our case, for the YEAR)
How in the world he didn’t get held back on absenses, I’m not sure. I dug my heels in this year and refused to play their game. (granted, I did say “I won’t play your game. I will talk to my reporter friend that you’ve held back an honor roll, AP student who will be starting college as a freshman” so they may have just not even gone there ….. *shrug* maybe they decided mamma was a bear they weren’t going to tangle with?)
You are probably right that your note would not be accepted. I’m a pediatrician and one of my kids had the flu this past year, and he missed one day of school (it was a Friday – he was well enough by Monday to go back). I sent a note with his diagnosis. His absence was recorded as “unexcused”.Another time I was called to pick up one of the kids who had a fever – I sent a note saying he had strep – both the afternoon check out and the next day’s absence were also “unexcused”.
You are probably right that your note would not be accepted. I’m a pediatrician and one of my kids had the flu this past year, and he missed one day of school (it was a Friday – he was well enough by Monday to go back). I sent a note with his diagnosis. His absence was recorded as “unexcused”.Another time I was called to pick up one of the kids who had a fever – I sent a note saying he had strep – both the afternoon check out and the next day’s absence were also “unexcused”.
Lunches: I did the daycare route so I can see both sides. At my daycare we simply removed sodas from the lunchbox, offered water or apple juice instead, and reminded parents that it was against our policy. With junk food, the kids had to eat healthy stuff first. If all of the stuff was junk we ranked it in order of least junkiest to most junkiest. However, if this child attended a daycare where meals were provided by the center, that is a different story. The center is required to have a balanced meal plan and bringing in lunches from the outside upsets that. You bring up the ultimate point though: the parent always has the right to leave.
Bathroom excuses: Let me tell you, I am one of the most liberal teachers on my floor about bathroom excuses, but sometimes even I am the “mean teacher”. Usually it happens like this: I have offered a bathroom break. No takers. Then another. No takers. Then I start a lesson and suddenly five kids have to go to the bathroom. Mind you, this is after they have had three chances in three periods (and mine are bigger kids!) Sometimes it truly is an emergency; other times it is a scam to get out of class. A good teacher knows this and gets to know the ones who like to use it as a scam (and the ones that will embarrass themselves if you don’t let them go). The others lay down harsh policies.
Absences: I hate telling the parent they need to have a doctor’s note so they can CYA, especially when their kids are out with stuff that will go away without a doctor’s intervention. It’s such a waste of time all around.
Lunches: I did the daycare route so I can see both sides. At my daycare we simply removed sodas from the lunchbox, offered water or apple juice instead, and reminded parents that it was against our policy. With junk food, the kids had to eat healthy stuff first. If all of the stuff was junk we ranked it in order of least junkiest to most junkiest. However, if this child attended a daycare where meals were provided by the center, that is a different story. The center is required to have a balanced meal plan and bringing in lunches from the outside upsets that. You bring up the ultimate point though: the parent always has the right to leave.
Bathroom excuses: Let me tell you, I am one of the most liberal teachers on my floor about bathroom excuses, but sometimes even I am the “mean teacher”. Usually it happens like this: I have offered a bathroom break. No takers. Then another. No takers. Then I start a lesson and suddenly five kids have to go to the bathroom. Mind you, this is after they have had three chances in three periods (and mine are bigger kids!) Sometimes it truly is an emergency; other times it is a scam to get out of class. A good teacher knows this and gets to know the ones who like to use it as a scam (and the ones that will embarrass themselves if you don’t let them go). The others lay down harsh policies.
Absences: I hate telling the parent they need to have a doctor’s note so they can CYA, especially when their kids are out with stuff that will go away without a doctor’s intervention. It’s such a waste of time all around.
Amen, to this post! It’s ridiculous. They do it to the adults too. They can’t take the adult’s word for it, they want a note from your physician.
Amen, to this post! It’s ridiculous. They do it to the adults too. They can’t take the adult’s word for it, they want a note from your physician.
All of the above….this is why we homeschooled. Can be done in three hours or less/day. No gas expenses….Kids almost never get sick. (kids do have to ask to go to the bathroom. ))It does take some commitment and discipline from the parents…..and a lot of them don’t have it. So pass it on to our government, why not?
NCLB created a lot more testing to prove that teachers were doing their jobs.
Also created more expenses….attendance rule to insure the school maxed out it’s government reimbursement.
What has the end result been? More attend college? Better jobs? (if they move to China, Asia or a foreign country.
I feel for the teachers and the kids as well.
All of the above….this is why we homeschooled. Can be done in three hours or less/day. No gas expenses….Kids almost never get sick. (kids do have to ask to go to the bathroom. ))It does take some commitment and discipline from the parents…..and a lot of them don’t have it. So pass it on to our government, why not?
NCLB created a lot more testing to prove that teachers were doing their jobs.
Also created more expenses….attendance rule to insure the school maxed out it’s government reimbursement.
What has the end result been? More attend college? Better jobs? (if they move to China, Asia or a foreign country.
I feel for the teachers and the kids as well.
“Jury Duty – Everyone wants to get out of jury duty. Panicattacks, chronic back pain, migraines, everything seems to be an excuse
to get out of it. I don’t usually give exemptions because I think they
should do it. I did (and missed three days of work). I guess jury duty
is the adult equivalent of PE.”
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And you supposedly are a doctor? Talk about cold hearted. Obviously you have no idea of how painful and debilitating a migraine can be. Typical of anyone who hasn’t experienced a true migraine.
Yes I know this is an old post, but came across it searching google.